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I replied to XXXXX’s email (from the world's newest casino cheat) telling him I was not entirely clear on which of my moves he did, and answering a few of his questions:

“Did you bet a 32-33 split and then pastpost a chip of a higher denomination, or were you doing the Savannah move where you "pinch" the loser and simply collect the winning chips if the bet wins? In any event, you're the first person who's actually written me about trying one of my moves. Though I didn't write my book to have readers go out and do it, I must say that it warms my heart that you went out and beat the casino! In the old days I used to beat the pants off the XXXXX. Like I said in the book, the moves work even if the casinos wise up to them.”

“I am not for the moment planning a cheaters school but if I do I'll let you know!”

“Picking up strays is simply picking up winning chips paid by the dealer to players not realizing their bets won. Often these players walk away from the table thinking they lost their chips. A person with a good eye can spot this and simply pick those chips up. I've seen it done with purple $500 chips! This happens the most at craps because of the game's inherent complications. Also at roulette. The best thing about it is that casinos don't really care about whose picking up the chips they pay out.”


XXXXXX then replied with some more details of his venture into the cheating life:

As to the move, I had bet (3) $5 chips on the two & three column, I was standing up and could see most of the wheel. When I saw the ball fall into slot 33, I pulled a chip off the 3 stack on 2nd column and placed it on the split between 32 - 33 with my left hand; I placed the top chip from the 3rd column back among my chips with my right hand. This had the effect of keeping both the stacks at the end of the columns even. It’s not exactly as you performed in the book but it has similar elements; my chips were in the vicinity of the split bet, the dealer was looking at the wheel, it was easy to reach the 32 - 33 split and I kept the stacks even so as not to draw the dealers attention. It worked pretty smooth. Could I have worked it better? Yes. But without a partner and lookout it was a method I devised as I watched the dealer’s moves, the other players, and the pit personnel. Mostly I wanted very much to test your method.

I knew, when I read and thought about your methods and moves it would work, Also as you said it requires practice, patience and good trade craft. I have good hands and nerves. I just had never through of beating the casinos your way; in the open, in the light, in the noise, with its busyness, leaving no evidence only confusion.

I wanted very much to try your method jumped the gun a little bit. But had a cover story ready, enough so that they would overlook the small payout. But, your method worked.

Prior to reading your book I had given up trying to beat them with playing strategies. I felt the only way to beat the casinos was sticking up the cash rooms. We both know that’s a loser. Like you stated in your book “that after cheating the casinos any desire to gamble in them was gone” It’s the same with me; I just want to cheat them and that’s much more fulfilling than winning legally.

I went to the craps table after the roulette gig but decided I wouldn’t pull off a smooth move without a partner or it had too be a very busy night But I only need a couple of good moves a night to get my 20 grand back but I’m a patience fellow, not too greedy, and time is on my side.

I think of what Mumbles said, “its the casino wars”. I can’t think of anyone I would rather take money from than the casinos and the people who run them, they are simply in the business of taking advantage of people.

As for me I own a small business and make a good living. I am well educated and almost always know where I stand legally. As you pointed out in your book, “its a long way between what is said in a backroom of a casino and what is proven in court”. I’m sure that a jury would seek any reason to side with the defendant against a casino if given a reasonable opportunity.

About the cheater’s school. Why not, off shore, Canada. I’m sure if the casino’s learned of the school they would comprise at least half of your students (undercover) but at least you would still be taking $$ from the casinos.

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The Newest Casino Cheater

Today my update from the realm of active casino cheaters comes from the world's newest casino cheat.

I received the following note from the first person who's actually written me about trying out the moves I used in my book.



Richard,

Read your book and took action. It was the most satisfying money I’ve ever received from a casino. It was a post-bet placement of a $5 dollar chip on number 33. I placed the chip between the 32 & 33. Like your book says it was to the dealers far left and I could see the ball falling into the 33 slot on the wheel. It’s not much fun working on your own but it was greatly satisfying.

After reading your book I wasn’t concerned about a rat at the table. Because have often I been the victim of a dealer sweeping away a winning chip by accident then forced to argue for your winnings, and of course in the process made to feel small, petty and an inconvenience; as have most players. Plus the rudeness of the dealers, pit managers, the way management moves out of there offices if a player is having a hot streak. They change roulette balls, dealers, close the table and anything they can to move that hot streak to a cold streak. All the regular players have witnessed this and know the odds are stacked heavily against a player.

When I made my move there were only five people at the table and I knew one of them. No one even batted an eye. The one gambler I knew kind of had a slight smile on his face. I could tell he liked the move.

I’ve gone to several casinos around XXXXX for three to four years. Occasionally I’ve won, but briefly, just for a time when your strategy fits perfectly into the way the ball is spinning, or the cards are falling in blackjack. But as always, “you must lose” the odds are so overwhelming.

I was only briefly hooked on the casino’s gambling for about a year. After trying several strategies I thought-up and several more I read about, I realized “that no matter what strategy I employed the odds are overwhelming and I am going to lose”. I gave up serious betting and even going to the casinos but I still have a desire for revenge. Over that
year it cost me twenty grand.

It’s interesting that when I go to the casinos I still see people I met several years back still betting, still trying to win and no small number of them driven into poverty. Or reduced to taking their pay checks and losing them to the casinos the day they are paid. Of course, I listen to the dealers telling you how little they are paid and how they depend upon customers for tips to pay their bills. I know they are paid close to minimum wage but the casino’s make tons of money and could afford to pay them substantially more, But why should management let the suckers get ripped-off and pay the dealers too.

In short, I enjoyed ripping them off. I’m not sure it was even the money but it felt so good to level the playing field. I would like to put together a team and like the marines I am looking for a few good men.

I have several questions:

Are you going to open a school? (if so, sign me up.)

Are you going to start a club with tip sharing?

In the chapter where you meet Joe’s brother in Atlantic City. He said “I don’t do much post betting now. Mostly I just pickup stray bets and play poker with suckers on both sides of the Mississippi.” Could you please elaborate on “pickup stray bets?”

Appreciate a response.

XXXXXX

Pat KOs the Strip Casinos During the Morales/Barrera Fight

An eager crowd filled the MGM Grand hotel-casino arena on Saturday night to watch Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera battle for the WBC super-featherweight title.

Barrera bested Morales, who was a 3-1 favorite, but the true odds defying activity in Vegas last night was performed by my old teammate Pat who, with a handful of his new cohorts, plied our premier cheating move, Savannah, across The Strip's roulette wheels. Pat and his crew walked away with a pile of winnings and received NO STEAM! (unwanted negative attention from casino surveillance)

While I won't disclose the amounts of money involved, Pat and his crew pulled in a nice five-figure sum. As Pat relayed his adventures from the night, I noticed a few changes that he has made to some of the terminology he uses in running his team. The Pinch move remains the same, but he kept referring to signals and gestures that were different from the ones we used to employ, ones which by and large I inherited from the cheating team I was originally initiated into by my mentor Joe. The signals are akin to ones used in sports, a brush on a chin, a swipe at the nose, and the ever-dreaded "Run" signal, which I'm glad to know is still a call out of the name "Chester Gallo."

As readers of my book will know, Savannah is a Pinch Move that sometimes requires a good deal of patience as you wait for the chosen bet to hit. Patience paid off well for Pat. He paid out a few hundred dollars after switching out his chips on losing bets, retaining high value checks hidden beneath the angled $5s, giving up paltry stacks of $5s. While we used to run the move with $5000 checks, Pat was mostly capping off $1000s only once successfully winning on a hidden $5000.

Another interesting note is that Pat, whose real talent I always considered to be taking the money off the table (claiming), has successfully moved into the background, playing the part of security (from a safe distance, keeping a watchful eye for any discomfort from the pit crew). Although I cannot argue with his running the security role, as it is the proper spot for the man with the most casino experience of his team, I do consider it somewhat of a shame that he is no longer regularly raking off the bets in person. This for one reason alone, Pat, who would've been a great actor, was THE BEST CLAIMER EVER, bar none.